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Mike Smith's avatar

A fascinating description of how seeing is much more than just processing light.

It's also worth noting that we don't see the pattern that hits our retina. That pattern has high acuity (resolution) and color in the center but becomes increasingly lower acuity and colorless as we move closer to the periphery. And we have a hole in the center where the optic nerve connects the retina o the brain. Our impression of a rich visual field is a construction, possibly a prediction framework with incoming signals acting as error correction. It shouldn't surprise us that it could be constructed from alternate pathways.

On seeing through hearing, I wonder if anyone has tried to incorporate color into something like that. Probably too much information to wedge in, particularly if we want to give it the same saliency as reds and yellows have in comparison to greens and blues. If we did manage it, it seems like a blind person could come to form many of the same learned associations with color that we do. So they could come to understand what a sighted person means by red being associated with hotness, or blue with coolness.

Which would raise the question: are they now having the experience of redness or blueness? If not, what would they be missing?

Excellent, as always Suzi!

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Eric Borg's avatar

Thanks for another lovely one Suzi!

I bet one big advantage of the clicking echolocation that people use, is that it should still leave the standard sense of hearing quite intact. Conversely the sounds from the vOICe app seem pretty overpowering. Of course someone could turn the vOICe sounds down to get more standard sound information as well, though probably at the expense of not getting quite as much nuanced vOICe information. So there ought to be a trade off between the two. Maybe it would be most effective to alternate between the vOICe information and just standard hearing as appropriate from time to time? But what do blind people themselves now find? That would be where the rubber actually meets the road. Outfitting someone with such technology today, and even a baby, should not be expensive. Unless there are major problems with this particular technology then I’d expect blind people to now be using it quite a lot.

Much of this article addresses the concept of brain plasticity. Furthermore sometimes there are time limits, which I presume is why baby development should be important here. This reminds me of the tragic case of “feral children”. Beyond horrific psychological trauma, apparently without exposure they lose the potential to develop any of our natural languages — their brains appropriate those areas for other things. So are people, and even blind babies, now being fitted with such technology? And hopefully even babies are taught to turn their vOICe system on and off for samples when they’d like information about what’s around them rather than standard sound information.

Anyway back to Nagel, I suspect that even he couldn’t quite nail down what he was getting at with “something it is like”. Perhaps he just figured that brain states weren’t appropriate for this mysterious thing? Jackson too. But perhaps I can enunciate what they could not. Perhaps it’s the goodness to badness of existing? In the end that’s all I think it is. I consider this to essentially be the fuel which drives the conscious form of function, and somewhat like the electricity that drives our computers.

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