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Mike Smith's avatar

Excellent post Suzi! I had no idea the tradition of conceivability implying possibility went that far back. It explains why so many philosophers seem comfortable with it.

I've always been skeptical of this idea, for exactly the reasons laid out by the philosophers you cite. We may *think* we can imagine something with sufficient rigor that it's meaningful, but human minds are more limited than that. I sometimes wished philosophers had to take some programming courses, primarily so they could internalize how bad humans are at logic.

I think thought experiments are useful devices, but mainly for clarifying people's intuitions. The best ones challenge those intuitions, find where they start to break down or become contradictory. But most are simply telling a story that validates the author's intuitions. The ones people find compelling are the ones that validate their own intuitions. It seems like their main value is in the conversation they generate.

But I've never been wild about the word "experiment" being in the name. That implies they tell us something about reality. Daniel Dennett called them "intuition pumps", which I think is an improvement, although to me "intuition clarifiers" might be more accurate.

Anyway, looking forward to the rest of the series!

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Prudence Louise's avatar

Great article.

I think it’s useful to distinguish between imagination and conceivability. Conceivability means without logical contradiction, it’s a disciplined imagination. It’s a way of clarifying our concepts.

And the other thing is that while conceivability may not reliably tell us what is true, it is reliable in ruling out the false. So, when you say it doesn’t tell us “anything” about whether something is possible in the real world, it can tell us that square circles and married bachelors don’t exist. It rules out the impossible as false, rather than establishes the possible is actual.

Thinking about that in the context of the p-zombie thought experiment, it’s not suggesting zombies actually exist, it’s arguing “against” the idea there is an identity between mind and brain. If there was such an identity, there would be a contradiction in the concept of p-zombies.

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